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Jamie

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« on: May 17, 2009, 02:01:36 am »

Can you guys tell me about this message and what may have caused it -

[16/05/09 20:09:45] CluEleSS is a suspected cheater(Damage: 100000.000000;Warhead: 24; Distance: 53.553902).
[16/05/09 20:09:45] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[16/05/09 20:09:45] Weapon not availible.
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[16/05/09 20:09:45] Name: CluEleSS
[16/05/09 20:09:45] IP: 90.197.77.73
[16/05/09 20:09:45] Ping: 111
[16/05/09 20:09:45]
[16/05/09 20:09:45] Damage: 100000.000000
[16/05/09 20:09:45] Warhead: 24
[16/05/09 20:09:45] Distance: 53.553902
[16/05/09 20:09:45]
[16/05/09 20:09:45] BIATCH version: 1.1 beta 1, built on May 13 2007 at 00:33:12
[16/05/09 20:09:45] IsAutoBanEnabled: 0
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[16/05/09 20:09:45] Owned ammo types:
[16/05/09 20:09:45] - Ammo_MineTimed_Player, never selected before
[16/05/09 20:09:45] - Ammo_Pistol_Player, currently selected
[16/05/09 20:09:45] - Ammo_AutoRifle_Player, last selected 1578 ms ago
[16/05/09 20:09:45]
[16/05/09 20:09:45]

I'm 100% sure the guy wasn't cheating

Server was a death match server where they run armour mods have obelisk guns etc.

this is what happened just as the alert appeared in irc
« Last Edit: May 17, 2009, 02:05:15 am by Jamie »
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Re: problem
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 03:03:44 am »

Warhead = 24, thats the Blamo-killer. kills things such as Purchase Terminals and AGT guns. Things thought to be undestroyable. He has the Pistol selected, so, unless the pistol is designed to do that in the server, he 100% certainly cheating.

Damage warnings in BIATCH are 100% positive, server side weapon mods can cause conflicts, but unless you see this message pop up fairly frequently then the guy is DEFINATELY cheating.

And, yes, hello Nune. I figured your prior experience with TK2 would have helped you a bit here...
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Re: problem
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 10:05:23 am »

I'm 99,5% sure that the guy was cheating. Unless you really fucked up your always.something (like modding (that) weapons value to use blamo), BIATCH WILL NOT GIVE FALSE POSITIVES ON THIS.
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Re: problem
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 12:41:20 pm »

Nunega?!
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Re: problem
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 01:19:56 pm »

This is definitely a cheater. The guy had a client side modification of the pistol to use blamokiller with 100000 raw damage. The serverside mods do not affect this. (The only possible reason for this not being true would be a really weird bug, but that would be the first and thus highly unlikely)
« Last Edit: May 17, 2009, 01:23:03 pm by StealthEye »
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Re: problem
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 01:30:12 pm »

-TK2-BIbot- 90.197.77.73: ( clueless (17/05/09), NuNeGa (16/05/09) )

Hmmm :-S.
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Re: problem
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 01:31:31 pm »

Nunega?!

hai


Guy was not cheating, I can be 100% sure as it was me.

Do you guys know whether a obgun could cause this message to appear?
« Last Edit: May 17, 2009, 05:38:42 pm by Jamie »
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Re: problem
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 03:57:04 pm »

You're sure the log is an original and not edited?
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Re: problem
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2009, 04:25:28 pm »

can't be 100%. Was given that by someone who is a mod there. He says the server owner gave it to him.

I have a check if I get the time later on.
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Re: problem
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2009, 02:39:15 pm »

just a couple of thoughts, this guy is running the beta biatch from may 07, didn't you guys do an update since then :/

Maybe there were some bugs you found in the beta which could of attributed to it.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 02:45:50 pm »

That would be the last availlable version, I think.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 04:12:06 pm »

just a couple of thoughts, this guy is running the beta biatch from may 07, didn't you guys do an update since then :/

Maybe there were some bugs you found in the beta which could of attributed to it.
We did release 1.1 RC1 in may, but it's actually release quality. We haven't updated it anymore since it actually count as 1.1

See: http://www.blackintel.org/?subaction=showfull&id=1179064168&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&&news
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Re: problem
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 09:14:36 pm »

There are no known bugs. There was never a final because there was never anything we had to change, thus releasing the same thing with a different version number seemed a bit odd. (Yeah, I agree; having a RC=final is odd too).

This log message can hardly be caused by a bug anyway; (warhead 24 = blamokiller = cheat warhead, 100000 = way too high = cheat damage) so if anything, it would be that another player cheated and it banned you instead, which again would be really unlikely. If that would happen due to some bug of some kind however, the real cheater would have gotten the same messages too and would be banned soon after or the server would crash. If neither of those happened and your messages are the only ones around at that time, you were cheating.
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Re: problem
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 09:24:56 pm »

i don't cheat... thats why im trying to find out why this occurred. I'm told this message occurred on the map before the one I was actually banned on. There were no repeat messages.

Refferring to a earlier post I do know a whole lot about the anti cheat in renegade, I did not get a pistol kill at all in the two maps I was in the server nor destroy anything with a pistol.

But whether I was cheating or not is not why I came here, I am trying to discover why this message came up, you guys wrote the the thing. Don't you have any theories?
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 09:54:19 pm »

It's incredibly unlikely that this message wouldn't be true. I told you my theories, and how unlikely they are. Did you damage anything with a pistol?
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