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BlackIntel => Help and support => Topic started by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 24, 2009, 11:25:29 am

Title: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 24, 2009, 11:25:29 am
As you might have heard we have a small conflict with TransIP. Basically the problem is as follow: we've apparently used too much power off their powergrid, more than allowed by the contract. Now they charge us extra for that. All this is pretty fair, but the thing that troubles us the most is that they just started doing this since November. All of the sudden we're using too much power. Not any single warning or whatever. I e-mailed them asking for some leniency for the first month, because we never knew how much power our server was using.
(http://www.blackintel.org/usr/evilwhitedragon/transipbill.png)

Because of this, we'll be moving our server (http://www.blackintel.org/servers) to a new colocation provider which should provide us with enough power for a decent price. Basically we'll be paying 45 euros a month instead of the current 55+23,50 (overusage) = 78,50 euro. The only downside of this is that our server will be down when we move it and ,even worse, we need to pay December both to our old provider as to our new provider + setup fee at our new provider. We expect that this will cost us about 180 to 200 euros which kinda sucks ;). Because of this huge amount of money we're once more asking for your donation. Even if it's just 5 euro it'll help out, we would appreciate it greatly!

Since we're moving the server. our website would experience downtime. Since we dislike having both our gameservers and webserver down at the same time, we're planning to move the website to Sep76's host before we're going to move the server. We expect to do this somewhere this week/weekend. The moving itself can be done pretty fast, but the DNS update could take some time to get through (up to 24 hours) so don't be scared if our website is down all of the sudden.
During the website downtime you will still be able to visit us on IRC (scroll down a bit) (http://www.blackintel.org/servers) where you can have a chat with us if you want :).

When we have a fixed date for the webserver move we'll post more! The game or main) server will probably be moved on December the 12th, but that's not yet confirmed.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: StealthEye on November 24, 2009, 12:02:10 pm
The website should not have any downtime actually, during the DNS update period, the current website will still be accessible. The forums will be placed in read-only mode or maintenance mode however, because otherwise new posts placed at the old/current host will not be available on the new host. If we can we'll do something even smarter and keep forum downtime to a minimum (only a few minutes)... We can't fully guarantee that though; so if things are down you'll know why. :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Slyfox on November 24, 2009, 04:50:55 pm
I think I might donate. Have to ask my parents permission first though (sigh).
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 24, 2009, 04:55:09 pm
If it'd be of any help, we could cent an email to your parents explaining what it is we do and how we spend your money. It could also help your parents understanding what you're doing on the internet all the time ;)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on November 24, 2009, 05:44:26 pm
Or I could just tell them on one of the many conversations I have with your mother on Vent, sly :P
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 24, 2009, 05:50:10 pm
Or I could just tell them on one of the many conversations I have with your mother on Vent, sly :P
That might be an option too, but I can imagen that it helps when the one who receives the money explains what he/she would do with it. Particularly in the case where it is something 'unknown' like a website.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: VickVenom on November 24, 2009, 06:54:18 pm
I was thinking about donating but i dont own any of those cards that are in the donate list :P is there any other way i could donate ?
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 24, 2009, 07:06:51 pm
Bank transfer is an option, so you would transfer money directly into my bankaccount. This is within mainland europe also the cheapest way of transfering money.
A different option would be to snailmail the money. S0megeeza once send me 70 euros by snailmail.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: VickVenom on November 24, 2009, 07:08:54 pm
i think banktransfer would work :P and if it doenst snailmail would work lolz
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 24, 2009, 07:13:58 pm
You got a PM.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: VickVenom on November 24, 2009, 07:17:02 pm
alright ill try to donate asap but i gotta do some work now :D
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on November 24, 2009, 08:07:10 pm
A different option would be to snailmail the money. S0megeeza once send me 70 euros by snailmail.

Hehe, I remember that photo. 
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: dhdc on November 25, 2009, 05:17:31 pm
i would donate but because of Christmas i am out of money i have 2.80 if you want it pm me your pay pal ill send it but thats literally everything i have
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 25, 2009, 06:07:31 pm
Well, I wouldn't want to make you broke so....
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: LeeumDee on November 25, 2009, 07:28:29 pm
I'll see how my Christmas bonus and wages turn out (Dec 23rd), and probably donate then. Which will be too late for this project, but it's still money and hopefully can go towards something nice :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 25, 2009, 07:30:59 pm
I'll see how my Christmas bonus and wages turn out (Dec 23rd), and probably donate then. Which will be too late for this project, but it's still money and hopefully can go towards something nice :)
We'll pay it anyway, that's not the point, it would just be nice if we (in the end) wouldn't have to pay for all of it ;)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: shippo on November 29, 2009, 03:19:55 am
um I wouldn't mined donating either however....  I can't seem to find your donate buttons :D. what page is that on? 
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on November 29, 2009, 07:04:10 am
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/535/20102362.jpg)

I didn't notice it until I asked either :P
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 29, 2009, 11:36:42 am
Hmm apparently we need to make thedonate button more visible :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: DKDexter999 on November 29, 2009, 12:49:31 pm
Just change the header from "BlackIntel" to "DONATE"
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: dhdc on November 29, 2009, 03:54:06 pm
or make it like this

DONATE
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: LeeumDee on November 29, 2009, 04:51:08 pm
Hmm apparently we need to make thedonate button more visible :)

Or make it look like it actually says donate....
With that font, it looks fucked up.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Friso1nl on November 30, 2009, 09:28:58 am
Make one of those neat Paypall donate buttons: those are easy to recognize.

Secondly, I would like to apologize for my long dispresence: Lately I have been quite busy and my GTA:VC addicition has been acting up again (so did my Fallout 3 addicition and EiR:R addiction, fueled by some friends of mine playing vCoH, which kind of meant me not playing renegade anymore lately, I will pick it up in the vacation of course ;). )

Also, Gwynzer will be seeing me on FS soon enough! (Damn, that is actually a pretty awesome game! :p )

I will see if I can make a donation btw, but Sinterklaas, clothing shopping and beer has been making a dent in my wallet, so can't be sure I have anything to spare (on the plus side: I AM handing in my application form at the local supermarket tomorrow!)

Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on November 30, 2009, 10:14:36 am
I will see if I can make a donation btw, but Sinterklaas, clothing shopping and beer has been making a dent in my wallet, so can't be sure I have anything to spare (on the plus side: I AM handing in my application form at the local supermarket tomorrow!)

Well wow.  Friso growing up.  Oh, I remember the days when alchohol was a thing which hadn't even crossed his mind(and he also never had any money, they could be related).  Now he's getting a job, I'm so proud!  /me allows a "happiness" tear to drip down his cheek

More on topic, I've already put some more towards the costs, but it doesn't cover nearly the whole thing. Evil wants your Monies!
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 30, 2009, 02:15:57 pm
People that donated sofar:
Gwynzer and
DKDexter

Your donations are highly appreciated.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: goztow on November 30, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
The day I get a working version of TT (beit alpha, beta or complete release) in my hands, I'll make another donation to BI! :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: lavakill on November 30, 2009, 06:03:02 pm
I would love to donate some money to BI, but I don't have a job.  However, when I do get a job I may start to donate and hopefully you'll be able to accept my american dollars. :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 30, 2009, 08:15:16 pm
I would love to donate some money to BI, but I don't have a job.  However, when I do get a job I may start to donate and hopefully you'll be able to accept my american dollars. :)
If you use paypal this isn't an issue at all :) it automatically converts the dollars to real money ;)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on November 30, 2009, 10:48:59 pm
If you use paypal this isn't an issue at all :) it automatically converts the dollars to real money ;)

Yup, it turns it into the British Pound end then into something awful like the Euro.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on November 30, 2009, 11:22:38 pm
Yup, it turns it into the British Pound end then into something awful like the Euro.
You Brits are just old fashioned and stubborn...
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Slyfox on December 01, 2009, 03:40:00 am
I'm afraid I won't be able to donate 'till after Christmas, because that is when I receive some cash from my family. I have almost nothing right now.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: VickVenom on December 01, 2009, 01:29:54 pm
I'm afraid I won't be able to donate 'till after Christmas, because that is when I receive some cash from my family. I have almost nothing right now.

same for me i wanted to donate earlier but i am saving for a new scooter so all the cash goes for that now but i think i'll have the scooter round christmas and after that i am sure that i can donate something :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on December 01, 2009, 02:07:18 pm
As said before, we'll pay it anyway, it's just nice knowing that we don't have to pay everyting in the end :) All donations are appreciated, regardless of when they are made ;)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Trace on December 01, 2009, 02:38:54 pm
Yup, it turns it into the British Pound end then into something awful like the Euro.
Our euro is kinda pwning ur british pound for the last few months, so stfu! :P
It must've been ages ago I donated... I'll send some before my Health Insurance claims all my money :P

Trace
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on December 01, 2009, 03:21:59 pm
Free Health Insurance from work FTW.

Trace, you can get more with monopoly money in monopoly than the British Pound in Britain, it doesn't make it better.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: LeeumDee on December 01, 2009, 07:17:23 pm
Free Health Insurance from work FTW.

NHS for the win.....  (http://forum.blackintel.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on December 01, 2009, 07:37:16 pm
Shippo donated about an hour ago :)
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on December 02, 2009, 07:43:26 am
Regarding donations.

I belive amazon is doing some kind of deal where if a site registeres with them, and people go to amazon and buy something via a special link they give that site, amazon gives a small % of that sale money to us.

I'm seeing it done right now (in time for XMas) on a US site, so I'm not sure if it's unique to the US or if it's for anyone, but something to look into.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: shippo on December 02, 2009, 04:05:02 pm
you know I think it would help if you had like a bar chart saying what you need and how much has been given

btw I don't know how much everyone has donated this is just an example
         
                                  
                      38  of  250

     14 Gwynzer   24DKDexter  10Shippo
         |            |         |
gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg


Gwynzer
DKDexter
Shippo
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on December 02, 2009, 04:16:59 pm
More like "1500 Gwynzer" tbh.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on December 02, 2009, 04:34:02 pm
I could image donators not wanting that, so...
If they do then that's fine with me as well.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Gwynzer on December 02, 2009, 05:14:36 pm
Not Numbers, but "Donators" being listed and a percentage of total left of the months bill would be acceptable.
Don't even say how much it costs monthly, because then people can see exactly how much has been donated by that single person who has donated so far that month.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: DKDexter999 on December 02, 2009, 05:59:54 pm
I'd mind it saying how much I donated...

I don't mind it saying that *I have* donated, but the amount I've given will for all purposes remain between EWD and me :P (and perhaps Seye and Ghost too)

I could live with the amount shown in percentages though. Just don't show the final amount, because then if you're three donators you can estimate what the other two have donated (and if you're two you can calculate the exact amount the other person donated).
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: shippo on December 03, 2009, 05:53:11 pm
you don't have to put up the pp who donated I baslicly was curious if you wanted to put up a bar showing what our goal is so that pp would be more encuraged to give, if they knew how much was left.
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: Slyfox on December 04, 2009, 12:12:19 am
I say we don't make a donate progress bar, because the amount I'll donate might be laughable (I don't make much cash).
Title: Re: Server and webserver move (again)
Post by: goztow on December 04, 2009, 07:33:01 am
If 10 persons donated 3 , there's more than if two persons donate 10. Each little bit helps.