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BlackIntel => General discussion => Topic started by: LeeumDee on May 12, 2009, 04:22:36 pm

Title: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: LeeumDee on May 12, 2009, 04:22:36 pm
Hey :)  I'm finialising parts of my portfolio and I'm almost ready to go online. I thought I'd ask the BI folks for some insight here.

When deciding on a host, I thought that i really would like my new domain on a new host, as I really wouldn't want my online portfolio (which will be viewed by potential employers/customers) connected to my other domains. Plus I haven't actually purchased my new domain name yet as some hosting packages come packed with 1 domain registration.

So any suggestions? :) 
I think 1gb web space will be enough, with at least 10/15 gb of bandwidth and 5 email addresses.
I have found one package with basically what I need for $19.99 a year. Which is an absolute steal, as now I pay $91 for hosting alone.

So is there any better offers out there? Basically I'm just looking for some guidelines. Who to go with, who not to go with? Are these said "packages" a good idea? I understand you guys use transip, have anyone been with other companies and can rate them? googling anything regarding web hosting pulls up millions, and i'd like a human response if possible :P
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: MacKinsey on May 12, 2009, 05:33:16 pm
The Specifications of your package are looking like my ATBHost Specs
http://atbhost.net/plans.html
PackagesFree HostingPost-4-Host 1Post-4-Host 2Ad Supported
Diskspace1 GB5 GB10 GB10 GB
Bandwidth10 GB50GB100GB100GB
E-mail Accounts1105050
Mysql Databases10255050
FTP Accounts10255050
Add-on Domains10255050
Posts Required010/month (5 to order)20/month (5 to order)0
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All of the following features come standard with all of our packages:
Apache 2.2.11
PHP 5.2.9
MySQL 5.0.51a w/PHPmyAdmin
Sendmail
Perl
CGI
Frontpage Extensions
Traffic analyzer
Cpanel 11.24.4
Installatron Script Installer
Its completly ad-free, speed is very ok.
You can configure very much (like on a paid hosting), even your own 404 and other Error Sites (not often at free hosters).
A Domain isnt that expensive.

EDIT:
OK. I dont know your deadline, but the registrations are currently closed, i just saw it
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: Trace on May 12, 2009, 06:40:41 pm
Usually it is the lower the price the worse the host.
I have had some cheap host in the past, but the speed wasn't that good and the support horrible.
Now I have a very nice host, its servers are really fast, since I know those guys I have a service which no hosting provider can beat, but they are overall quite good. They aren't cheap tho. Its 8 euro/month for the 1gb packet you want (excl domain name).
Service has its costs ;)

Trace
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: StealthEye on May 12, 2009, 06:54:58 pm
Our domain is registered with LeaseWeb (and we used to rent our dedicated box there too) and our current server is hosted by TransIP. We are very content about both. I think TransIP is mostly targeted at dutch customers though, not sure about LeaseWeb, but at least their site looks more English. ;)

I think most hosting providers are pretty decent, try looking at sites hosted by them if possible. Just make sure they offer the things you need though (a recent version of PHP, MySQL, space, FTP access, etc) my guess is that everyone supports that nowadays anyway though... :P On the domain thing: if you get it with some hosting package, make sure it's not bound to that or something... You may want to switch hosts sometime, but you probably don't want to lose your domain. Domain names are usually pretty cheap anyway so it's not all that important to buy it in one package. I'm not exactly sure what would be needed to bind the domain to your hosting (the host probably needs to change some configuration or you need to do it using some web interface or something), that is something you may want to check.
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: DKDexter999 on May 12, 2009, 07:05:25 pm
Whatever you do, don't use Cybercity!

I did that - and I rented 10mb serverspace, then 10 months after giving up connecting to the server, I got an e-mail saying "oh, sorry, the FTP IP-adress you had gotten was wrong, hence your site haven't been working - this IP-adress should do it: <IP-adress>. We apologize for the inconvenience."

When I asked if I could get a refund, or the next 10 months for free, they turned me down with the reason, that in fact it was all along MY FAULT! >:(

So whatever you do, **DO NOT** use Cybercity!
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: LeeumDee on May 12, 2009, 09:17:40 pm
I wouldnt want free web hosting, as ads definitely wont look good at the top of and surrounding my portfolio. One very important thing though is speed, (with lots of images and maybe a flash loader) so I guess i really shouldn't skimp on the price then :/

To be fair what I have now is very cheap considering what I get. But like i say i really do need something different as i dont want them to be connected. Same with my domain name, I usually purchase domains from domainsite.com and there i know how to set them up with the host but anywhere else im afraid i'd be very lost and I cannot buy from domainsite or else again my new domain will be linked to my existing ones.

Leaseweb looks very good; you get a low of bw but again the price is very "pricey"
It's a mine field trying to choose, the hosting company i currently use is hostgator who do get a ton of bad reviews yet I find no fault with them. (apart from price >.>)
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: StealthEye on May 12, 2009, 09:44:33 pm
7/month isn't much different from what you have now is it? Or am I missing something? :P

For speed, make sure you get something hosted nearby (assuming you're not planning to get a job in China for now ;) ).
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: LeeumDee on May 12, 2009, 10:06:50 pm
7/month isn't much different from what you have now is it? Or am I missing something? :P

For speed, make sure you get something hosted nearby (assuming you're not planning to get a job in China for now ;) ).

China someday! :P
The thing is I have to keep my current hosting up, at least until another 7/9 months, so I'll be paying for both. If i could back out of that I'd be fine and just grab a £5 a month deal again.
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: Trace on May 12, 2009, 10:25:16 pm
http://core-07.com/
Site is in dutch, but if you need any help you can email them in English ;)
I am very satisfied with what they offer, and it is a lot faster then my connection ;)

Trace
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: goztow on May 13, 2009, 06:26:35 am
The fact you need 1 GB of webspace makes the price go up. Companies that offer 1 GB of webspace for a very small price simply count on the fact that a lot of their customers will not actually use their full webspace. So they put, e.g. 1.500 customers on a 1 Terrabyte HDD. Same with bandwith: if they promise you unlimited bandwith, then be sure you'll get a warning if you start using 200 GB per month. They'll hide behind a fair use policy.

That's why you're better off going a bit more expensive.

I personally also do some webhosting reselling but for this kind of package (1 GB HDD + 20 GB bandwith + 10 e-mail adresses), I'd probably have to ask you around 15 € per month all taxes included and domain name included, though for the first year I could probably make that half.

Quality usually comes with a price :).
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: LeeumDee on May 13, 2009, 12:49:23 pm
The fact you need 1 GB of webspace makes the price go up. Companies that offer 1 GB of webspace for a very small price simply count on the fact that a lot of their customers will not actually use their full webspace. So they put, e.g. 1.500 customers on a 1 Terrabyte HDD. Same with bandwith: if they promise you unlimited bandwith, then be sure you'll get a warning if you start using 200 GB per month. They'll hide behind a fair use policy.

That's why you're better off going a bit more expensive.

I personally also do some webhosting reselling but for this kind of package (1 GB HDD + 20 GB bandwith + 10 e-mail adresses), I'd probably have to ask you around 15 € per month all taxes included and domain name included, though for the first year I could probably make that half.

Quality usually comes with a price :).

That's really generous and If im working full time again soon I think I will take you up on that offer.

Regarding size again, I'm really unsure if i will be needing 1gb, for my portfolio will be something like 50-200 images (200 in the future *wishes*) But there are always files that I need hosting every now and then, just things that crop up. For instance my PS tutorial videos. I'll check my current server for how much i use there.
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: goztow on May 14, 2009, 06:58:17 am
I unfortunately need to limit that offer to the month of May, but other actions might be possible later on :).
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: LeeumDee on May 14, 2009, 08:16:12 am
Ah that's understandable indeed, not a problem at all. I'll wait until my current host expires then I'll get in contact with you :)
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: Trace on May 14, 2009, 02:05:14 pm
On the site I posted the package Gozy offers is 8 euro/month, + 10 euro a year for domain name (including tax)...  ;)
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: goztow on May 14, 2009, 03:57:30 pm
On the site I posted the package Gozy offers is 8 euro/month, + 10 euro a year for domain name (including tax)...  ;)
But they don't have Gozy ;).

I'm just telling u what I offer, I'm not claiming to be anywhere near the cheapest but I can offer some customization towards what u need.
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on May 14, 2009, 07:06:09 pm
TransIP isn't expensive either, and since they are our sponsor, I think we should try to get them at least one (more) sale :+
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: LeeumDee on May 15, 2009, 08:17:05 am
In the past I've been with two people, the first one i forget the name and it was somewhat difficult to talk to them. and currently I'm buying from a friend, from his reseller account and it's much easier to ask for more bw (when i needed it) and for extra sites on my account etc. Although I really doubt that wont be needed this time around.

I would be dropping my hosting completely but as it stands, I had a few customers (mainly friends) That are hosted on the same reseller so there is little I can do about that for now. Might just simply drop SA, and run my site of the hosting and attempt to get reductions in price :/

Also I'm thinking now, 1GB is to much. My server has used almost 3GB but on it is several sites and needless files (at least now it does) For just my portfolio and a few 100 pngs. I think 500mb will be fine.
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: goztow on May 15, 2009, 08:29:48 am
Well, let me know if you would want a more official offer on the specs of your choice :). I'll see what I can do then.
Title: Re: Web hosting and domain registering.
Post by: EvilWhiteDragon on May 15, 2009, 11:10:38 am
Mega hosting pakket
400MB Webspace
10GB Datatrafic
25 mailaccounts
 
Giga hosting pakket
750MB Webspace
10GB Datatraffic
50 mailaccounts

Mega is 3,99 euros and Giga is 4,99 euro. Not sure if it includes the domainname, but it does kinda suggest that.
I'm not sure how good thier webserver service is, but just as a connection and rackspace provider, TransIP is more than fine.